The following is an exchange between Wortzel and Maribel
Gonzalez, Washington correspondent for Mexican Grupo Reforma. The
Washington Post (June 23, 200) calls Grupo Reforma "the most
respected and influential newspaper group and one of the most
important forces for change in Mexico."
Q: Can America defeat terrorism? How?
And how long would it take?
A: Defeating terrorism will require a long-term effort;
years in fact. It will take a combination of law enforcement
efforts, intelligence and counterintelligence cooperation, ending
the financial network that supports terrorists, attacking the bases
where they train, and undermining the governments that support and
assist terrorists.
Q: America's multibillion-dollar
intelligence system has failed. What happened and what has to be
changed? How much would it cost?
A: The intelligence system definitely failed to detect
these attacks or to identify the extent of the terrorist cells. The
most tragic part of this is that many agencies of the US government
all knew something about what was going on, or what terrorists (or
suspected terrorists) were in the US. But they were not talking to
each other or sharing the information. To improve this, information
must be shared and available. And more people are needed for
counterintelligence and security work. It will cost not billions,
but hundreds of billions of dollars.
Q: Who is in charge of the American
intelligence now; the CIA or the National Security Agency? What is
the role of the DIA?
A: The Director of Central Intelligence, who is also the
CIA Director, is the head of the US intelligence community. The
Defense Intelligence Agency is part of the intelligence community,
as is the National Security Agency (which is part of the Department
of Defense).
Q: What should America expect from
other countries? Which countries are key for the success of an
international coalition against terrorism?
A: The really key countries to a coalition against
terrorism are the Islamic states that tend to provide funds and
safe places for terrorists. Also, by having Islamic states as part
of a coalition it makes it clear that this is not a war against
Islam, but rather a war on terrorism.
Q: Is there a role to play for the
Latin American countries?
A: Latin American countries can work to identify
terrorist cells that operate in them, or pass through them. They
can control immigration and documentation to make sure no
terrorists get illegal passports. And they can help to identify and
shut down financial networks.
Q: How can the U.S. try to form this
international coalition against terrorism when this country has
never ever ratified the international conventions against terrorism
passed in the United Nations?
A: The UN allows for self-defense, and this is a defense
against an attack on the United States. The US should not be forced
to defend itself only when the "lowest common denominator" of
policy options is dictated by an international organization, many
of whose voting members are terrorist states.
Q: The President is talking about a
"different kind of war". What does that mean? What are the options
here?
A: This is a war that will involve covert action by
special operations forces (Rangers, Special Forces, Navy Seals),
law enforcement organizations, the US intelligence community, the
Treasury Department, and the State Department. Careful information
and public diplomacy operations will be part of it. I do not expect
to see large bodies of troops based in a foreign country as we did
in the Gulf War. When the US can operate as part of a coalition, or
bilaterally with a friend or ally, it should do so. But if the only
way it can attack a terrorist organization is by acting
unilaterally, even through clandestine means, it must do so.
Q: First goal I understand should be
to identify the terrorists. Would you be in favor of launching a
devastating retaliation against any such movement and any nation
that provides them with shelter?
A: Yes.
Q: Second, the U.S. must act to turn homeland defense in a
reality. How?
A: Coordinate the military reserves, National Guard,
Federal Emergency Management Agency, Center for Disease Control,
and federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies. Control
immigration points more tightly. Pay greater attention to the
security of ports and waterways. Enforce air defense intercept
zones. Improve airport security. For a limited time, suspend the
rules for wiretaps and mail searches by the FBI. Perhaps allow some
military intelligence organizations to operate in the US.
Q: What would happen to the U.S.
relation with the Arab countries and the Muslim countries in Asia
if Washington attacks a Muslim country?
A: The Muslim countries of Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia, and
Brunei) and the countries with large Muslim populations (India,
Philippines, China, and Thailand), face similar problems. They must
be made to understand clearly that the US has no desire to change
their forms of government or religious beliefs. But the US (and the
West) cannot tolerate armed attacks emanating from these countries
or terrorists being trained there.